Is the Pacquiao/Roach relationship beginning to sour?
By Lou “Cinder” Block
Those who have watched HBO 24/7 Pacquiao/Cotto last night could see the change in the Pacman. It was a different side, an inconsiderate side that I had never seen before.
Roach made a comment about Pacquiao being happy over the small things before but not so much today, like when Manny came to the gym and was happy because he got a new pair of Mizuno boxing shows and showing off his new Mizuno shoes to Freddie. Well those times have changed and it seems Manny has finally fallen victim to the Fame.
Like many other star athletes once they get to a certain level they no longer cherish the little things.
Manny has gotten too comfortable wearing those silky pajamas to bed. In the episode he disobeyed Freddie, he promised Roach behind closed doors that they would leave early, but later on decided to stay a bit more in Baguio.
As Manny Pacquiao trained in the lavish Baguio gym, instead of taking a break to visit the victims he just stayed at the resort. Roach as usual sticks up for Manny during the Baguio visit he tells the storm victims that Manny could not visit them because he told Manny to train for his fight, no matter how bad Manny treats Freddie, Roach will defend Manny and never talk bad about him.
For those poor Filipino people, just one glimpse of seeing their hero Manny Pacquiao in person would of boost their morale and give them hope. Manny took time out from training to talk politics, but not visit those victims for a brief moment? I hope this was just HBO editing because that seems unlike the Manny Pacquiao image we are so used to seeing.
Even Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the time out of his training to help the homeless and give lectures to homeless youth. Mayweather showed even with all his money that he still has the time to help those less fortunate, but with Floyd Jr. people seem to overlook that side of him and focus on the negative.
I really felt for Roach, the father and son relationship that they once had or seemed to have was no longer there. As evidenced by the final scene where Manny was talking to some politician and Freddie who was fed up because no one was listening to him tells Manny that they have to leave to LA already.
The response from Manny was shocking he rolled his eyes at Freddie Roach simply to dismiss him as if he was a nobody.
Pacquiao needs to realize how lucky he is to have a man like Freddie Roach in his corner, inside and outside the ring. Roach has stuck his neck out for Manny many times. True friends like Roach always get overlooked when they get to a certain level, they forget the little people.
People like Roach are few and far between.
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Are you living in cave man.
read this: Pacquiao Helps Victims from Associated Press.
Or you are like a horse with tapa ojo.
kadtong atong nakita nga scene sa hbo 24/7 episode, pwerte jud intawon looya ni Pacman adto. Imagine nibisita niya ang senator nga kandidato pagka presidente sa pilipinas, unya morag modaog pa raba jud, aron pagpakita sa soporta og respito ngadto kang Pacman. Unya kay atol man nga schedule si Pacman og biya sa baguio, unya sa dayon na unta nilang larga nitungha man ang senador, unsa man ang buhaton ni Pacman balibaran lang ang senador aron siya ipanabi sa senador nga nahambugero na kay sikat naman? mao nang gi respetahan ni manny og istorya gamay ang senador aron dili mahiubos, karon pagkakita ni coach freddie nga nag istorya-istorya raman diay si Pacman wala man magpreparar para larga iya dayong giadto aron pahinumduman nga molarga na. ang reaction og expression sa nawong ni manny dihang gisultihan na siya ni coach freddie pareha jud sa anak nga gikasab-an sa amahan nga nakigistorya sa amigo imbis magpreparar para larga. balik-balika ninyo og tan-aw ang episode, niya kon Filipino mo nga pure inyong masabot nga nahimutang si pacman sa bingka adtong tungora. dili siya gusto nga masuko si coach freddie nya dili sad siya kabiya ni senator villar kay basin og mahiubos, nya kon modaog pagka presidente? Pero imong makita nga may kalipay ang nawong ni pacman nga nahitabo to nga scene kay duna naman siyay rason ni senator villar nga mobiya sa ilang istorya kay nasuko naman ang iyang coach. Ayaw ninyo intawon palihog og sayopa og sabot ang nahitabo. kadtong dili mga Filipino ato rang masabot pero ang mga Filipino nga dili kasabot maoy sakit huna-hunaon. Sabta si Pacman, lahi na ang iyang pagka butang ron. Bisag unsaon niya dili na jud pariha sa una nga dili pa siya sikat. usab na jud. Hinaot pa unta nga ang mga fans ni Pacman makasabot ani. Kon ugaling, simbako lang, dimalason siya karong Nov.14, dili ni tungod kay hambugero, gahi og ulo or unsa pa nga atong ipahamtang ni Pacman. Kini tungod sa sitwasyon. Ingnon nato ini pagtan-aw “Kon kita pa ang nahimutang sa dapit ni Pacman basig pwerte na jud natong hambugero-a, pero si Pacman naninguha nga magpabilin nga simpli unta pero dili najud mahimo kay lain naman ang iyang kinabuhi karon”. Hinaot nga ato siyang sabton og atong iampo ang iyang kalamposan pagsakmit sa ika pitong bakos so boxing. Sagdi lang nang mga writer nga dili Filipino kay di man jud na sila makasabot sa mga Filipino. Mao ni ang naka superyor sa mga Filipinos. Others cannot undestand the behavior and fathom what is inside the minds of the Filipinos. We have to be very proud of it.
Hey, Lou “The Unbiased” Cinder Block, are you this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFDhxOwKWpo
[...] Is the Pacquiao/Roach relationship beginning to sour? By Lou “Cinder” Block Those who have watched HBO 24/7 Pacquiao/Cotto last night could see the change in the Pacman. It was a different side, an inconsiderate side that I had never seen before. Roach made a comment about Pacquiao being happy over the small things before but not so much today, like when Manny came to the gym and was happy because he got a new pair of Mizuno boxing shows and showing off his new Mizuno shoes to Freddie. Well those times have changed and it seems Manny has final [...]
An article without substance. So tasteless.
Hey, Lou, I heard this from the grapevine! Mayweather is now willing to fight Pacquiao at any price!!! Dionisia Pacquiao, that is, mother of Manny!!! Har har har har!!!
What upset me the most is the comparison of Pacman by this stupid writer to Mayweather, the latter taking time to help the poor which the Pacman could not do. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! Mayweather is for show Manny is for real even before he became rich!!! After giving token brown bags, Mayweather went to his mansion and said “these are all paid for, how about yours?” I have read the comments here and I do not have to repeat what they said which are all true. Just be responsible as a writer. I am officially aligning you with perhaps your IDOL and his steroids accusation on Pacman, Mayweather SR.
im so sorry for Manny, although they into agreement that they’re going to leave for Manila, is son happen that his guess is a former Senate president, a presidential candidate, in which Manny just cant say “NO”…As for Freddie, he is so professional and understand the situation. But the POLITIKOS in the Phils doesnt understand the situatioan of Manny….Manny is so resfectful that others dont respect him.
Manny should not take Coach Freddie’s instructions lightly. He is only concerned for the welfare of his favorite fighter. He is like a son for Freddie Roach.
another stupid article by a mayweather hugger hahahaah
Without Freddie Roach. There will be no P4P king Manny Pacquiao. Just Paquiao.
i hope this one is not true…if this happens,many of his fans,country men who believes,respect,and known him as a hero will be disappoint,Manny don’t listen to those politicians,cause no one of them solve our country problem ever”POVERTY”
I’d say Pacquiao will probably lose to Cotto by unanimous decision. Cotto’s got no bad vibes nor bad habits. He’s like Pacquiao in his earlier years – humble, hardworking, early in the gym – stuff like that. I think money and fame has gotten into Manny at this point, and that he hobnobs with leeching politicians like Manny Villar.
Pacya will not involve in politics he have so much wealth and to help the filipinos in other way..he have so much business and incomes why he will involve in politics to loss his money during election no way man, he broke his face and leave his family for training he sacrifices everything to gain money then he will loss to this dirty politics o come on man boxing is my career i will leave here and help the filipino people by my own way…leeching keep out in pacman era…strive your own…
You’re too judgmental. Haven’t you known that Pacman already went to Manila particularly in Taytay from Baguio to extend help or support the flood victims? That was more or less 6 hours trip (one way. That’s slandering
just another intrigue sown to ride on the pacman phenomenon..try selling this story to a movie scripwriter.. you might just get lucky
I applaud your comments. You are correct with your observations about Manny does not notice the small things anymore. If he continues to disregard the small things which brought him where is now today, this could be the start of his demise. His body language speaks clearly as shown on the first episode of HBO 24/7 when he was talking to a politician.
Considering the writer mentioned the unnoticed (good) side of Mayweather, most likely he wrote this article to prop up Mayweather’s image by jabbing Pacman’s character and to demoralize the teamwork by sowing this kind of intrigue.
You cant put gasoline in a calm water and expect it to spread right away, you people have nothing to do but creating an environment of chaos between two people with an unbreakable bond. Manny will never disrespect his coach. I know that for sure. for just one gesture Manny judge harshly by this nonsense.
Manny is setting himself up for failure. It’s totally obvious that Manny is not mentally ready for this fight. He is so arrogant that in his mind the fight is already won. He’s focusing right now on preparing for the political election next year, who his next opponent will be, and getting ready for his after-fight party in Las Vegas. Why should he be focused on his fight with Cotto when he has better things to do? Right now Manny will need an epiphany to snap out of his conceited mentally such as a Knockout Loss by Cotto. Good luck to Manny. I’m sure he’ll wake up after he gets knocked out November 14, 2009.
You know myboy is right, we really dont know what is happening inside the Pac camp, any negative act by pacman that caught by 24/7 guys doesnt mean that he grow his head already.Maybe Freddie doesnt knows whose pac is talking with, that why he approach pac like that, come on’ pac is talking with the orange man, could you do a little research before writing like that. You know what, the way he approach Manny like that, i feel that freddie is the one who is rude not koncz. I think it must be better when he approach Manny with formality not like the way he did.Im reffering pac as Manny Pacquiao and Manny as Manny Villar the future President of the Republic of the Philippines(also known as the orange man).
Well, all i can say is that Manny should realized that all things has an end. Maybe Pacquiao now is famous and a very hot commodity, if He wont let humility stays in his heart then what GOD has given GOD will take it away. As the saying goes “take care & respect those people who helped you when u wer going up, because they’re also the same people u’ll meet wen ur going down” And last. U Bastards politicians, stop using Manny for ur own benefits in the coming 2010 elections!! May the politicians get cancer and die, they’re all corrupt and robbers!!
It’s all in the 24/7 drama script, I saw the same Pacman with a wide eyed smile and a boyish grin, his never changed. I don’t see anything wrong with playing hoops every now and then, Freddie should know by now how much Pinoys loves to play basketball, has he not seen it in nearly every corner of the street in Manila.
I think Roach needs to start acting more like a diplomat rather than creating more drama. Philippines has always been on the path of a dozen or more typhoon every year and Pinoys survives through it, I guess coach Roach is just more scared than everyone else.
being with Micheal Koncz would be the reason for Manny to plunge into the pit holes.i hope that Manny realizes that koncz is the one intervening w/ Freddie’s decision and disrupting the harmony of team pacquio. he may be doing a good job in handling manny’s business affair but he is the one dismantling the cohesiveness of the team.
To mr. koncz: you suck!please stay away from manny’s BOXING AFFAIR!leave it to FREDDIE ROACH you asshole!
For me it just an HBO Sports who’s trying to make an issue. The way they edit the movie clip it seems that they want to sell more on the next episodes.
All that floyd did w/ the homeless peeps was just a show-off. He got that from Manny, after watching the Pacquiao/dela hoya 24/7. floyd never helped the homeless people during the dela hoya/maywether or Hatton/mayweather 24/7. But after watching what Pacquiao did to the less fotunate in the Philippines then that’s when the floyd’s adviser told him to put on a “SHOW”.
His money is his own money,that’s floyd. He don’t care about those people and you(CINDERella) also knew this but you still chose to wrote this negative shit just so you can get people to read this shit of yours.
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Manny is not paying FR a cool million just to disrespect the man,it was not perfect but not disrespectful. Considering all the disruptions I thought the camp went well. REGARDING THE HANGERS ON, IF I GET INVITED AND HAD THE TIME, I COULD BE ONE OF THEM,OVER ALL, THEY ALL SEEM TO BE HAVING FUN.
WTF? you’re comparing Manny to Floyd Jr.? Floyd helped the needy just for show! Just for 24/7! Did help the needy before? Manny has helped the needy even before he was as famous as he is now! You’re crazy to compare Manny and Floyd Jr. It’s like comparing a human being (Manny) to a monkey (Floyd Jr.)! There’s a clear change in Manny but it will it’s quite normal as opposed to Mayweathers innate extreme boastfulness and lack of manners.
Pacquiao already donated 1 million pesos for the victims of the typhoon and he took break from training camp in Baguio to go down to Manila to gives relief goods personally to the victims. Even before he always gives money to the poor people in his Hometown everytime he wins a fight. This writer should research first and dont just judge Pacquiao base on what he saw on the hbo 24/7. That shows how iresponsible writer you are.
you know wat guys.. this is stupid okay.?? i watche d the hbo presentation episode 1 and what the hell is wrong with you guys… pacquiao rolling up his eyes…?? that he showed disrespect to freddie?? chill guys… don’t be so oversensitive and over paranoid.. the way u guys saw it is so different from how i see it..
i like the episode and i like roach, and manny may have been not cooperative, but manny was talking to a senator and roach rudely interrupted them, roach doesn’t have the right to do that to a senator, he should apologize.
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