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How would Manny Pacquiao do against a prime Roberto Duran?

Sunday, December 20, 2009

By Lester Salvador

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I had an argument with a Pacquiao fanatic the other day who told me Manny Pacquiao could easily destroy Roberto Duran prime for prime because  as he put it “Manny Pacquiao can punch harder than Mike Tyson.”

I would like to warn any boxing fan that getting into a boxing debate with a Pacman fanboy is a no win situation, either way you lose because you are arguing with someone who only started watching boxing with Manny Pacquiao and has a limited amount of knowledge when it comes to the sweet science.

Roberto Duran Sports Illustrated Cover

On the Cover: Roberto Duran, Boxing,
Photographed by: John Iacono

I will just cut to the chase, keep it short and simple,  Manny Pacquiao wouldn’t last 5 rounds with Roberto Duran at lightweight prime for prime.

Roberto Duran the greatest lightweight boxer of all time, the man known as “Manos de Piedra” (hands of stone), Duran who knocked out a horse with a single punch as a teenage boy would destroy Manny Pacquiao.

Roberto Duran youtube highlight

Roberto Duran had fought in an era when every fighter was hungry and fought with heart and determination, also noted, Duran fought “PRIME” fighters he never had his opponents hand picked for him or drained.

Roberto Duran simply had too much power, a better chin, and too much pressure for Pacquiao, Manny wouldn’t know what to do if he had a guy like Duran pressuring him with combination’s, Duran would just shrug off any punch Pacman threw at him.

I believe Duran could take what Pac dishes out but I doubt that Pacman could take anything Duran would dish out to him.

For any of you Pacquiao fanatics who will disagree and hurl insults at me, even Manny Pacquiao’s own Master Freddie Roach said on ESPN that Manny would not be able to defeat Duran and said Duran is the greatest lightweight ever.

Watch the video and listen carefully to Freddie Roach at 2:48

So if you are gonna throw some remarks at me like I don’t know boxing, what is your opinion of Manny’s respected hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach, since he shares the same prediction as mine?

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  1. abtik says:
    December 21, 2009 at 1:12 am

    Duran surrendered when he fought Leonard (who is comparable in terms of speed to Manny). He fights like Hatton. He will only last 2 or 3 rounds againts Manny

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  2. roy says:
    December 21, 2009 at 1:47 am

    Roberto Duran can knock out a horse but the PACMAN will destroy a horse. see the different idiot. The best style of the past has no way can bet the best style of the present, just typewriters compared to computers.

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  3. rackie says:
    December 21, 2009 at 1:52 am

    Roberto Duran can knock out a horse but the PACMAN will destroy a horse. see the different idiot. The best style of the past has no way can bet the best style of the present, just typewriters compared to computers.

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  4. houston says:
    December 21, 2009 at 2:14 am

    Hey Lester, why are you writing again?hehe.remember your promise?haha

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  5. IHatePacky says:
    December 21, 2009 at 2:15 am

    Mano de Piedra Duran is the beast of LWs we cant compare that as of now.

    tho now he was a fan of Pacman he was on Pacquiao on prior ODLH vs. Pac fight and again Pac-Cotto fight

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  6. Balekog Oten says:
    December 21, 2009 at 2:16 am

    I think the best match for Pacman is Muhammad Ali. So stop this nonsense Duran issue, he’s just a sitting duck for Pac

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  7. mr. couldkillmewithsinglepunch says:
    December 21, 2009 at 2:19 am

    pac heaters just wants to be famous so they write articles something like this. no wonder they have plenty of comments on their articles. nice articles don’t have so much comments on it. comments gives more sense to me than this none sense one sided waste of time article. so for the author.. no offense but.. your article sucks..

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  8. bro says:
    December 21, 2009 at 2:24 am

    this writer is abnormal

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  9. Nate says:
    December 21, 2009 at 2:32 am

    Hey Lester,

    Still hating Pac? Why? Because you belittled him before the Cotto fight but then you discredited him after he peppered COtto? Get over it..

    Do you really have to excert all your efforts to write a moot and academic article? FYI, no one can ever tell who will win because they will never meet..never..So whatever arguments presented were irrelevant..Better write articles with sense..

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  10. Reica Morales says:
    December 21, 2009 at 3:30 am

    Dear Mr. lester Salvador,
    You and the pacman fanatic and me are just the same..we are all stupid.. hahaha.. haven’t you heard that in the Philippines, Manny Pacquiao Knocked out a Philippine Native Buffalo which is bigger than a horse when the buffalo refused to work on rice farm???? get real man…we don’t know who punches harder because they haven’t fought each other.. stupid writer..

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  11. Erica Morales says:
    December 21, 2009 at 3:31 am

    Dear Mr. lester Salvador,
    You and the pacman fanatic and me are just the same..we are all stupid.. hahaha.. haven’t you heard that in the Philippines, Manny Pacquiao Knocked out a Philippine Native Buffalo which is bigger than a horse when the buffalo refused to work on rice farm???? get real man…we don’t know who punches harder because they haven’t fought each other.. stupid writer..Just like me

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  12. bb says:
    December 21, 2009 at 3:42 am

    duran who was knocked down twice in the first round and knocked out on the second round by hearns? is that who you’re talking about?? obivously this writer is an idiot.

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  13. pakboy says:
    December 21, 2009 at 5:34 am

    its not gonna happen!
    its like superman vs san gokou comparison
    theyre the best in their time… so whats with the “Manny Pacquiao wouldn’t last 5 rounds” and “Manny Pacquiao could easily destroy Roberto Duran prime for prime “?

    the issue is whos on top in all time ranking

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  14. pakboy says:
    December 21, 2009 at 5:39 am

    its not gonna happen!
    its like superman vs san gokou comparison
    theyre the best in their time… so whats with the “Manny Pacquiao wouldn’t last 5 rounds” and “Manny Pacquiao could easily destroy Roberto Duran prime for prime “?

    the issue is whos on top in all time ranking!?

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  15. bigdipper says:
    December 21, 2009 at 6:26 am

    lester salvador are you on crack?! or are you blind?! comparing duran with pacman’s speed both in handspeed and in movement you could almost say duran is so slllloooooowwwwwww. he’s going to be hit a lot more than what cotto had taken therefore duran’s power would be negated. roach chose duran coz from his own mouth he likes duran and is making a comment as a casual fan plus the fact that pacman hadn’t beaten cotto yet when the interview happened.

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  16. JL says:
    December 21, 2009 at 6:30 am

    Duran is overated!!! How can he be the greatest lightweight of all time, when he quit during his second match against Sugar Ray. If he ever fight Pacquiao, he’ll do his famous NO MAS part II

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  17. JL says:
    December 21, 2009 at 6:37 am

    Bottomline is, NO QUITTER CAN THE GREATEST XXXXWEIGHT OF ALL TIME!!!

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  18. Mistah7 says:
    December 21, 2009 at 8:52 am

    This site is still alive? Wow! :)

    Reply
  19. Mistah7 says:
    December 21, 2009 at 8:57 am

    I say if you debate against a NowBoxing writer you’re in a much worse no-win situation.

    They will write about you, against you, generalize all Pac fans with every negative word there is and worse even discredit Pacquiao himself who did nothing but prop up the sports of boxing just because there are SOME pac fans who just give them a dose of their own medicine.

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  20. boxingIsBoringIfNot4Pacquiao says:
    December 21, 2009 at 11:52 am

    ok, lester after Pacquiao, boxing is all yours to discuss with your sweet scientists. Interest will wane in boxing again and you will be on your own to discuss boring boxing. good luck

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  21. Arcadia says:
    December 21, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    This is what you got when you argue with a self-proclaimed boxing expert who happens to have a little boxing column. If he can’t beat you in the actual argument he will come back to you using his pathetic column.

    See he is talking as if he assume all Pacfans are newbies where in fact I can read more sensible comments coming from ordinary readers like me.

    Of course we know who loses some sleep here LOL!

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  22. Arcadia says:
    December 21, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Duran is a great legend, a one hell kind of a fighter but he is so inconsistent. He doesn’t have strong mental prowess as manifested by the infamous ‘NO MAS’ when he refused to continue because he can’t hit Sugar Ray Leonard and that Leonard was just mocking him and made him look fool.

    On the other hand, Manny destroys everything that crosses his path including your very own Miguel Cotto.

    Manny won’t last 5 rounds with Duran? Then what made you different from the Pacman fanboy that you are bashing. If you can’t write an objective article then why you just stop writing and wipe the bitterness that drools in your mouth.

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  23. pedro says:
    December 21, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    this author is the dumbest of all idiots. why in the hell you compare someone from the past? cant you name someone in this present that can beat pacquaio, guess not? anyways get a life and move on. life is too short to carry all that hate and jealousy. dont blame pacquaio if he is rich and famous. dont get a heart attack lester the molester

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  24. Pakbet says:
    December 21, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Although I admit that there is no certainty that Pacquiao could beat Duran in his prime I could easily say the same if it’ll be the other way around.

    I mean Mr. Salvador…Really…You should know better. WE are fans of Pacquiao! We admit that. Of course we’ll side with him. Sure we’ll prefer him winning in every competition even if it is against the greatest fighters of all time. But c’mon man! We’re not stupid. We know a great match-up when we see one.

    Bottom line is..this would be a great fight! But nonetheless a dream match for we won’t see it happen as fighters came from different eras.

    Got it man?!?! WE AREN’T GONNA KNOW WHO WILL WIN CO’Z IT WON’T HAPPEN. SO STOP MAKING CLOSED BOOK ASSUMPTIONS.

    It’s probably fine if you’re just a fan but damn! Your a writer man! One of your job is to disclose unbiased reporting.

    Shame on you!

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  25. youtheman-ny says:
    December 21, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    We can’t say for sure who will win because that Roberto Duran no longer exist.You could show me stats, videos and all that but the plane truth is, it is just speculation.This is something that’s left to the imagination, just like the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight ,fans of the respected boxers will tell you “oh my guy will win” and boxing experts will their opinion they will also be divided.But in this scenerio, we can actually find out who’s right we just have to wait until march 13.Look , I see your point of view but you’re coming in as a fan of Duran plane truth.You are not objective like the Pacquiao fan.I respect your opinion but that is just-an opinion nothing more.Now if you have a Time traveling machine and can travel Pacquiao to the 1980’s in Duran’s prime so we can see who’s right see if you can tape it so we can watch I know I’d be curious who’ll win

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  26. youtheman-ny says:
    December 21, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    I dunno man, I see the highlights of Roberto Duran’s fights.All I could think about is “Pacquiao could beat this guy” Duran is definitely a powerful puncher I am not taking that away from him but Pacquiao is also a strong puncher but also quick and what does Ali say ” you hands can’t punch what your eyes can’t see”.You see the fight with Miguel Cotto also a strong puncher ,like a Roberto Duran, and a little quick too.You see what Pacquiao did to him. But mine is just an opinion, just like everyone else. We can’t tell for certain who will win because Duran has long retired and Pacquiao is in his prime.All we can do is just speculate nothing more

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  27. Tanga says:
    December 21, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Lester,i had hard sex with your mother many years ago. She told you you are gay and like turds. I don’t know why you talk boxing. You use to write in a gay magazine, she told me. Now tell me how in the hell you know something about boxing.

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  28. Lester salvador says:
    December 22, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Hi Guys, Sorry if I offended some Pac-fans. The truth is that I am so envious of Pacman. He’s rich, has a beautiful wife and people love him.

    Sorry if I was like this. I had a rough childhood. My father molested me. My mother molested me. Damn, even our pet dog molested me. So it kinda twisted something in my head.

    Please forgive me. I’m just an envious shit!

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  29. RodBelt says:
    December 22, 2009 at 10:02 am

    As a Pinoy, I am a very proud supporter of PacMan, arguably the best boxer that came from my part of the world and one of the best in this generation. I am also an avid boxing fan and have watched some of the greats from the time of the Marcianos and Robinsons long before these hordes of self-professed experts, partial PacMan fanatics. Roberto Duran in his prime was a consummate boxing monster in the ring. He was not called ‘manos de piedra’ (hands of stones) for nothing. He fought in an era when championships were decided in 15 rounds, not 12, no 3-knockdown TKOs, and avoided nobody in the process. If Pacquiao and Duran would have met in their prime, Duran would have beaten Manny at any of the 3 weight divisions from lightweight to welterweight by KO although I would not dare say what round it is. While it is true that they belong to 2 different generations, enterprising computer experts may create a ’simulated fight’ similar to the one made between Ali and Marciano years ago. Even then, the results could create a lot of conjectures and endless debate.

    For those

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  30. Lynn says:
    December 23, 2009 at 1:31 am

    Lester why don’t you get a real job instead of trying to be wannabe boxing “expert”? Just admit it, you do not like Pacquiao and I can respect that but for the love of God, stop trying to sound like an expert talking about boxing science and coming up with scenarios that are outrageous.

    Get a real job Lester or better yet, why don’t you sign up at Wild Card gym because I know deep down inside your ultimate dream is to be a sparring partner of Pacquiao. Admit it, you have just a smudge, a tiny, a little crush on the Pacman, right?

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  31. John O'Neill says:
    December 23, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    Not a fair comparison because Pac is more like a featherweight than lightweight.

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  32. John O'Neill says:
    December 23, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Not a fair comparison because Pac is more like a feather weight than lightweight.

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  33. pulapol says:
    December 27, 2009 at 8:02 am

    I think Pac still better than Duran, Pac still making history and he will be still the best.

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  34. Alberto Tubo Jr. says:
    December 29, 2009 at 1:09 am

    Boxing is more developed today than was the time of Mr. Duran. Boxers are more well nourished and more scientifically trained than 10 years ago. No way Duran will win against Pac at 140 in their prime, he wont last 9 rounds.

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  35. killbill says:
    December 30, 2009 at 5:25 am

    “See? Easy to become known writer, just write something against the PACMAN and you’ll become instant celebrity writer.”

    that makes you a FAME WHORE,lester…
    you can also become an instant celebrity by sucking duran’s dick

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  36. LOL says:
    December 30, 2009 at 7:32 am

    Did i really just read pac punches harder than Tyson?

    lol. delusional fans are so cute!

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  37. LOL WOW says:
    December 30, 2009 at 7:33 am

    Did i really just read pac punches harder than Tyson?

    lol. delusional fans are so cute!

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  38. Fed up says:
    December 30, 2009 at 7:40 am

    Pac fans…geez

    1. Pac was actually the favorite in Vegas going in to the Hatton/Cotto fights, so underdog is pretty much out the window

    2. He hits harder than Mike Tyson? Are you people so blind by your love and pride for this man that you let it cloud your logic?? HONESTLY PEOPLE…SERIOUSLY.

    3. You know what, I’m done. I’m not a pac hater. I’m just a pac realist. The man is a very fierce boxer with speed you rarely see, but keep this crap in perspective.

    People are only saying what they think is right. He’s second only behind Sugar Ray Robertson? If you mean ROBINSON than your closer to the truth. Probably read that on a blog somewhere and thought it sounded good. LAME. Roberto Duran was a much better technical BOXER than Manny. Ali was a WAAAAAAAAAAY better boxer Manny. Marvin Hagler was a MUCH harder Puncher than Manny. You people need to do your research and learn the sport instead of just watchin his fights and thinking you know everything about the damn sport.

    Pac. One of the best 7..maybe 8 ever. 2nd? Your sick.

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  39. Boyong says:
    December 31, 2009 at 6:47 am

    Hey man! r U on drugs? Get a life! Reality is that Pacquiao is to0 fast for Duran. How can you hurt someone you can’t hit. Just stop being a boxing writer, oK

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  40. robert d says:
    January 6, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Duran is an animal, PacMan is a beast. Both have power that can floor even a junior middleweight. But whereas Duran sets up his opponent for his money punch the overhand right, Manny has shown power with either hand. Hatton and Cotto felt as if they were hit by a middleweight!!??! And hit that hard with uncanny speed. Duran uses rhythm and timing to deliver his blows. Pacquiao just simply uses unnatural speed and weird angles to deliver combinations his opponent cannot see and prepare for. Duran’s left hand does not deliver the same power as his right hand and is used for setting up. Pacquiao is dangerous with either hand and can beat Yuri Foreman if he meets him. You see Pacquiao can deliver a combination the way a prime Mike Tyson does, with surpising speed accuracy and power an opponent cannot be ready for. I call him a McTyson. And every opponent mistakes him this former lightweight that can’t hurt them because he is a blown up lightweight. Wrong answer. So if Duran and Pacquiao met, it would be either a close match or a KO either way. Duran is a slick crafty fighter and smart boxer who can also sneak in low blows when he has to and can roll away from punches very efficiently to minize the effects. Very rarely is he caught flush (Hearns). But Manny is just too good with his rapid stealthy combos that he can catch his opponent any time. Duran by decision.

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