Update: Pacquiao-Mayweather Super Fight is “OFF” says Arum
By NowBoxing Staff
After the Olympic drug testing disagreement between Team Pacquiao and Team Mayweather, Bob Arum of Top Rank Promotions who promotes the popular Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao has called the fight off for now according to an article by USA Today.
“The plug is pulled. The fight is off as far as we’re concerned,” said an agitated Bob Arum after reading the news release by Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer saying Pacquiao refuses to take a steroid blood test before the fight.
Arum continued “Mayweather proves that he’s a coward and he’s looking for a way out of the fight. The Nevada commission has been doing drug testing for the last 40 years. To appease Mayweather, we agreed they could do urine analysis anytime they wanted. But Manny doesn’t want them to draw his blood when he’s in training because it weakens him.”
“All they’re doing is harassing Pacquiao. I’m not going to allow it to happen,” said a concerned Arum. “We’re willing to do urine analysis at random even though we don’t have to do it under Nevada rules. I know deep down Mayweather doesn’t want the fight. He can take a walk.”
The super fight venue was named earlier in the week, MGM Grand hotel and casino in Las Vegas, Nevada landed the boxing match. MGM Grand won the bidding, although Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones put up a respectable site fee offer of $25 million for the Mayweather Vs. Pacquiao fight. The super fight was set to take place on March 13, 2010 and broad cast live on HBO pay per view and was estimated to break all previous pay per view records.
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PACQUIAO WILL DO THE FUCKING TEST BUT ONLY BEFORE TRAINING AND AFTER THE FIGHT! NOW I DON’T FUCKING KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS WITH A TESTING AFTER THE FIGHT! THAT WOULD BE VERY ACCURATE ENOUGH! FUCK THE MAYWEATHERS.. MAY THEY ALL BURN IN HELL
Ridiculous…Mayweather knows that he cannot beat Manny, so he is using any excuse to not fight…he is best to keep quiet and retire a coward!!!! He is no Muhammed Ali that’s for sure!
Pacquiao is on the Juice!
Just great the fight called off because Packy cant take his super roids so he can become the incredible hulk come fight night and ko mayweather with those bullshit roids.
Mayweather is smart he is clean he doesnt drink or smoke.
Pacman does not need Gayweather!!! He’s a coward and Manny has nothing to prove. Gayweather can kiss Pacmans ass cause its he’s a Pussy.
Maaaann, Pacquiao agreed to take the test a month before and immediately after the fight. What more does Mayweather want? I bet if it were up to Mayweather Jr himself, he’d be cool do go without it. Its all because of his crackhead pops and uncle that keep pushing for it.
Guys just admit that Pacman is taking something
Come on Olguin! You are like Gayweather.. Just accept that Mayweather is a coward – Go fuck the Mayweathers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have questions. Blood test during training, just how much blood will they take and does Manny have to give multiple blood samples during training?
Pac is scared of needles? That is what arum said and yet he has many tatoos, the Nevada system is a joke since Shane Mosley never was caught and he later was implicated to the balco scandal.
They dont want tests done before 30 days since he cycles off the drugs and he is afraid blood tests will find substances that the urine cant find.
He is a fraud and most smart people know it. Manny cheats on his wife and he wont cheat on a sport to make millions?
When California added random testing they caught 65 fighters cheating. I am sure if Nevada did the same alot more would be caught.
WADA’s new blood profiling sampling process implemented December 2009 requires samples before and after so that they can establish for EPO while testing for HGH on elite athletes. This doesn’t need to be done days before a fight to get the same results. 30 days is sufficient and compare/benchmark this blood bio profile before to the after. Like checking for tampering in a way. Elite athletes will be using a bio passport where their intial reading are compared to reading after performance. This is generally seen as the latest and most advanced method of anti doping testing.
All boxers in the history of the 4 sanctioning bodies have never had to take the WADA test. Urine tests have been generally accepted as the mainstay of the the drug testing business in boxing. The blood profiling is aimed more at EPO (short for erythropoietin) for sports such as the Tour de France, marathons and triathlons. EPO is not traditionally used to enhance performance in combat sports.
Maynigger’s scared, plain and simple.
If pacman wants to prove he is the best and not a cheat, he needs to take the drug test. What is pacman afraid of, because mayweather is willing to give blood samples.
This is another hurdle Manny has to face. Because it has been thrown out there, it will raise even more questions regardless if Manny is innocent. Is this a full blood drawn similar to giving blood or just a drop of blood similar to those taking a blood sugar test? In the end, I believe, Manny will take the test because it is not because of his fear of needle he has to overcome but he is doing it for the honor of his countrymen. I believe Arum is really looking out for Manny’s best interest, but Manny will agree to the test, I have no doubt. He has the history of being afraid of needles and he may have some sort superstition feeling taking blood from him will drain or sap his energy. When Manny does agree, Mayweather and his camp will be in for shock and fear. They’ve done everything they can to derail this fight and now the man from the most humblest beginnings will cement himself as the best Pound 4 Pound boxer of this decade and erase any sort of doubt of his accomplishments and his contribution to boxing. The man walks with honor and pride. He doesn’t fight for himself but for the honor and pride of his countrymen. Most of all, he is totally a believer of God and that his faith is in his hands. This is another test from God, showing Manny how would you deal when “your neighbor is bearing you false witnesses.” I know Manny has faith in God and he will get his answers.”
Please listen to me all PacMan dummies…you are all looking at this the wrong way.
The proposals for the blood tests and making sure everyone is on weight etc, etc are actually a BENEFIT to Pacquiao…because if everything comes back clean and Pacman beats Floyd…there will be absolutely no excuse Floyd, his dad, his fans, the media, anybody could use to belittle a Pacquiao victory. If Pacman were to get his wish and they only go thru the regular testing, there will always be that shadow of doubt. So please dont be so dumb as to think this is just a ploy by Floyd to get into Pac’s head. Especially when you consider Floyd signed the contract QUICKLY and Pacquiao signed the EXACT same thing, including the requested drug tests, and now all of a sudden it’s a problem.
So all this being considered, to me Pac either A.) will do it in return for more of the money, and this is his ploy B.) doesnt think his style meshes well with Mayweather’s ( which it doesn’t, pay attention) or C.) is just plain worried about what would come out of those tests.
Pacquiao’s issue is obviously rooted within superstitious beliefs, i.e., a part of Philippine culture. Most Americans are not privy to other country’s cultural traditions either because of arrogance or just plain ignorance. Imagine yourself being in Saudi Arabia and extecding your left hand in handshake! Guess what you get in return from the Saudis.
That being said, Pacquiao, however, is willing to have the blood tests done IMMEDIATELY AFTER the fight, which is a very good compromise that the Mayweather camp should consider. Otherwise, Mayweather is just finding an excuse out of the fight.
Pacquiao’s issue is obviously rooted within superstitious beliefs which is a part of Philippine culture. Most Americans would not be able to relate to other country’s cultural traditions either because of arrogance (egocentric) or plain ignorance (not being out of the US). Imagine yourself being in Saudi Arabia, e.g., and innocently extending your left hand in handshake. Guess what you get out of it.
That being said, Pacquiao has no problems having the blood tests done IMMEDIATELY AFTER the fight. Now that is a very good compromise the Mayweather camp should consider. Otherwise, Mayweather is just trying to find an excuse out of the fight.
Here’s some info which I hope will help your discussion along:
Blood profiling
WADA’s (World Anti Doping Agency which governs the US Anti Doping Agency) new blood profiling sampling process implemented December 2009 (a few weeks ago) requires samples before and after so that they can establish for EPO while testing for HGH on elite athletes. This doesn’t need to be done days before a fight to get the same results. 30 days is sufficient and compare/benchmark this blood bio profile before to the after. It’s like checking for any tampering or abnormalities to the athlete’s blood biochemistry. Elite athletes will be using a bio passport where their initial readings are compared to readings after performance. These are then collected and stored for future baseline comparisons. This is generally seen as the latest and most advanced method of anti doping testing and has been developed over a long time and has been in development since 2002.
All boxers in the history of the 4 sanctioning bodies have never had to take the WADA test. Urine tests have been generally accepted as the mainstay of the drug testing business in boxing and is more than adequate in detecting HGH. The blood profiling is aimed more at detecting EPO (short for erythropoietin) for sports such as the Tour de France, marathons and triathlons. EPO is not traditionally used to enhance performance in combat sports.
Doc, thank you for explaining and providing us some detailed information about the subject and hope will enlighten the ignorant FMJ fans and the Pacquiao haters and stop these accusations instead.
I’ve been saying this all along since inception, the Mayweathers would seek any means to derail this bout because of ‘fear’. There’s no other legitimate reason other than being scared to lose– his 0 record and his (?) legacy.
There’s only one word to describe…CHICKENSH!T
Olympic style testing is more rigorous than the drug testing performed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission and other state commissions. It would involve random blood and urine testing before and after the fight. Nevada commission testing only tests urine for banned substances, once just before the fight and once immediately following the fight.
In addition, Schaefer told ESPN.com that the sides had agreed on an unprecedented penalty if either fighter weighed in heavier than the contract limit of 147 pounds.
“We agreed to $10 million per pound, or fraction thereof,” Schaefer said. “That’s what the Pacquiao side wanted and we said OK to that. That’s unheard of. We have agreed on everything except for this drug testing issue.
Travis Tygart, chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, said a blood test can allow testers to detect use of energy-boosting synthetic EPO, human growth hormone and “a number of potent performance-enhancers not detectable in urine. . . . With a [30-day] window like that, you could dope to the gills and get away with it.”Pac is scared of needles? That is what Arum said and yet he has many tatoos (Very good point stated by PacroidHGH).Mayweather, is willing to take the test, and if Manny doesn’t have anything to hide, he is only going to be raising suspicion by not agreeing.
yo man fuck mayweather he`s a pussy and all you mayweather fans can go suck his dick….. bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
If Pac agrees to the testing, next thing you know, Mayweather will demand blood testing between rounds…he he he.
Well if Manny don’t have anything to hide then take the test.. Everybody saying Mayweather is trying to get out the fight, then take the blood test 48hrs before the fight and silence the critics, if you don’t then you must have something to hide, what the difference in giving blood 30 day before the fight and 48hrs before the fight, the only pussy i see is Manny.. Stand up like a man and take the test 48 hrs before the fight, anybody can beat a urine test, look at Shane Mosley, took the urine test before and after the fight and pass it, so all you Mayweather haters out there stop hating, Mayweather agreed to the terms including a 10 million dollar penalty for each pound if he goes into the fight over weight, so stop hating on Money Mayweather haters, yall need to be looking at Manny asking him why he doesn’t want to take the test
They should have implemented blood testing before fights a long time ago. Mosley went years on performance enhancing drugs, because they couldn’t detect it in the urine samples; from the sounds of it EPO seems like a drug that can be used to enhance endurance, which is the reason it is tested for in the tour de France, and marathons; that drug would actually be very useful in boxing to help you have increased energy which would equate to you being able to have a higher workrate with out getting fatigued.
Hey look many of the idiots on this message board know nothing about sports. I’m an athlete and I know why the USADA does testing like this. It is to ensure that every athlete is on an even playing field. The reason why the Mayweather camp wants Manny to give blood 30 days before the fight is because the month prior to the fight or any athletic competition is when athletes ween off steroids so they can’t get caught. All Manny wants is to make sure that he has those 30 days so that he can ween off roids. There are so many ped’s that can’t be detected in urine. This type of test will ensure that both athletes are indeed clean. If Manny refuses to fight because of this it will ruin his legacy, as many people will think that he has something to hide and it will put in question all of his other victories and his rise through so many weight classes. Remember Shane Mosely was caught on steroids when he moved up 3 classes to fight De La Hoya. Common Manny step up to the plate Floyd has already agreed to a 10 million dollar per pound penalty for every pound he is over weight ( which is unheard of ). I always knew Manny was on roids. This just proves it
There is not better idea to promote the biggest fight of the decade? Blood and urine will be fine for both of them to test. Sure.
With the up-grade system, that works for any sports around the world: World Anti-Doping Agency, are Pacquiao and Maywaether Sportsmen ot what? The WADA will test and protect, them both, health, and so clear fight.
I remeber last May 30th in Helsinki, to be brief, Ruslan Chagaev vs Nikolai Valuev couldn’t take place because Finland Sport Medicine’s Commission, say no risk because Chagaev was positive to Epatite B. Twenty days later the fight tooked place in front of audience of 60,000 + at the Veltins Arena in Gelsenkirchen, Germany, TV and Media from all over. Chagaev vs Wladimir Klitschko ( holded 3 belt), so for German Medicine’s Commission wasn’t a prolem, about Epatite B. So WADA, will be the best to protect the health of Fighters, without any point of view.
But I wonder myself:
-Local Health Commission Nevada?
-Local Fighetr F. Mayweather jr?
The fight -in my personal point of view -should take place in international atmosphere, as it is worldwilde event- in neutral country why not Dubai? As one of the place mentioned from the biggining… or yes any other suggestion will be much more intrigue, then the usual MGMGrand, let’s change and discover the world’s fans, through Boxing’s greatest event. The real world, not the usual fake Vegas. You’ll have the talk for next decade… just think about Rio De Janeiro… Tokyo…or wherever you like and works.
This is the chance to be world wilde fight, not just local rumors…, without any fantasy. It’s just an idea. Mr. Bob Arum knows something, one or two things…about to be international Promoter.
ciao-ciao
Pacman is afraid of needles but yet he has tattoos!! Bullshit!!
yes, pacman has tatoos and he is afraid of needles if he has a fight within 30 days. which part did you not understand moron?
put it this way, if pacman has no fight within 30 days, he is not afraid of needles. um hullo, tatoos on his body. morons.
what’s the problem on testing before and after the fight? why don’t official weigh-ins happen at fight night? why is the world round? all this talk is BS, just like Gayfeather.
Did Mayweather demanded this kind of training when he fought Marquez? or with any of the fights he had? Bob Arum already announced that Pacquiao is willing to submit to a blood test one week before the fight, they just need to know the definite schedule of the testing. If it needs 30 days to clean oneself with any trail of steroids then it cannot be done with just one week.
Can’t they just schedule the blood testing in such a way that if would be impossible to avoid detection of drugs if any of the fighter really use it. They just need to fix the blood testing schedule for this fight to happen.
Boxing is also a business, and in any negotiation it is not a good practice to submit to whatever the opposite side demands.
@derkh, Why is the world around? …Because Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather jr, is the biggest fight in History if Boxing, Championship of the World, you need the “world” to have fans and audience….from all over the world, is not a matter of local fight, thanks to the media world come to USA, otherwise you don’t exist. USA is not the world, English language is not the world….Yes is part of the world. In our days, any big Sport event take place all over the world, see Olympic, World Championship of any discipline- swimming- soccer, tennis, formula uno, etc…even the best Boxing tournment- Sixsupermiddleweight Worldchampionship Classic- a kind of Champion League- take place in 6 different towns: Berlin-Copenaghen-Oakland-Palm Spring-London and more town and nations will be involved till the final of supermiddleweight the best vs the best…next 2011. Cannot be local. Especially with the great values, that Manny Pacquiao transmits to the fans of Boxing.
Himself representing ASIA, not just Filippinos, and believe or not they are all spread out all over the world, beside you don’t have to be Filippino or Asiatic to love him.
The sam, you don’t have to be Black-USA or and AfroAmerican to love Floyd Mayweather jr. Open up your mind.
ciao-ciao Gianna -Milano -Italia my time 13:46
Happy Christmas to all the boxing’s fans around the world.
ciao-ciao Gianna Milano-italia
man I’m done with this. I could careless if manny is taking roids or not or mayweather making sure the playing field is even or just plain chicken. Man, I was looking forward to see this fight happen and im ready to pay any amount just to see it. Now I could careless if it happens or not. I would not even pay a dime to read it in the paper. I say Good luck to the both of them. Dumb asses
.big mouth mayweathers,the father predicted de la hoya and hatton will demolish pacquiao but was proven wrong… the jr. planned to retire with an unblemished fight record, it wont happen if he will fight pacquiao he knows he cannot take the punching power of pacquiao and he cannot hurt pacquiao with his punch. so they found an unreasonable great escape… not to fight pacquiao.
When Mayweather Jr.was on his way to the top to become the best, nobody questioned him? Why now? Did he resort to such methods as his dad claims Manny is doing right now? Does it take one to know one? Why so confident to submit to testing now alongside Manny, is it because after a year in retirement, traces already wore out?
Boxing rules are governed by the Nevada State if fights are held in Las Vegas. Let them conduct what is currently being used and not what Mayweather Sr. likes. Why replace something that still works?
Father is just concerned about his son getting bashed, that’s what I think. Or maybe, Junior resorted to this years ago when he was on his way up, per dad’s advice. Went to retirement when things got hot, when Junior was being requested to be drug tested. Retired got sober and now being clean, is unprofessionally suspecting Manny of doing it.
fuck you mayweather. you are very cowards. to many comments and excuses. let athletic Nevada Commsion to conduct the test not you to decide to do the same. Admit it that you are not willing to fight manny coz you know that you cannot depeat pacman. you know that your face will become zombies due to hard punches of pacman
YES! Manny has Tats and Hates Needles. There’s alot people who have tats and HATE Needles. You people just dont know that, because you have NO tats. IDIOTS!
floyd “pretty girl” gayweather jr. is an arogant and coward person. he is lower than low. like father like son. i have only one advise to him and his father: start a beauty parlor business..
father and son gayweather tandem just can’t take being floored for the first time in the life of little junior or should i say coward junior.
Mayweather is an absolute disgrace to the sport of boxing! The boxing world may be too afraid to call it like it is but its obvious that he is a frightened little insecure child and has zero character! He had no intentions of letting this fight happen! This was all political manuvering to try to shift the blame to Pacquaio! Pacquaio bent over backwards to accomodate Floyds unrealistic demands and still Floyd holds to this ridiculous blood testing because he knows Manny will refuse to do it. It makes him feel weakened in training to do blood testing and Floyd knows it! This has absolutely nothing to do with steroids! Pussy boy Floyd is just a loud mouthed chump and deserves no more respect! Ali had a right to talk because he didn’t back down from anyone. Floyd is just a little girl hiding behind politics pretending hes bad. Hes not bad. Hes a b**ch! He saw what Pacquaio did to Cotto and hes scared to death.
The reason if incase this fight will never happen is because of PUSSYWEATHER not wanting to actually fight the best pound-for-pound champ in the world. he knows that it will end as a loss for him and just bringing up excuses, name calling, “Lets get to the ring to see who the real king of the ring is” -Manny Pacquiao… sure mayweather is without a doubt a gr8 boxer but his time is up. Thats why he should of kept retired because his prime is way over since he first announced his retirement fucken “COWARD” and truth is hes going to lose when he gets in to the ring with PAC-MAN. Giving Pacquiao a chance at an 8th title division against yuri foreman is like handing it to him, Yuri is good but he simply is not ready for him. DAMN imagine 8 title divisions LOL FUCK MAYWEATHER MAN I TELL’it Straight up to his pussy face FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU MAYWEATHER straight up your ass, down your throat, and back up to your DADDYS ass…. “FUCK YOU” LOL Im embaressed to call you an American Boxer. Olympic Testing my ass. Pac_Man has Agreed and now your a pussy.
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