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If Shane Mosley takes the “Blood Tests” Pacquiao should do the same

Thursday, January 21, 2010

By Lou Block

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The negotiations for Floyd Mayweather Jr. versus his long time rival Sugar Shane Mosley are in the works and talks are going very good.

We all know that Manny Pacquiao avoided a showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. by not submitting to a simple  respectable Olympic drug testing protocol that all the best top level athletes who compete in the Olympics are required to take.

Pacquiao got every demand he requested from Mayweather and Golden Boy,while the only stipulation Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions asked for was simple random blood testing to make sure the playing field was fair and even, free of drugs and steroids.

Pacquiao moves forward to fight another Top Rank Promotions stablemate in Joshua Clottey a fight to be held at Dallas Cowboys stadium in March, and Floyd Mayweather Jr. is looking to greener pastures in a much more marketable fight with Shane Mosley the two have history of bad blood together.

Floyd has made it known that he will ask Shane Mosley to submit to the same exact blood testing he requested of Manny Pacquiao.  Shane Mosley who admitted steroid use when he fought Oscar De La Hoya is willing to show that he is no longer taking steroids or performance enhancing drugs and has nothing to hide by taking the blood tests.

Pacquiao on the other hand let go of $40 plus million dollars and the biggest fight in boxing today because he felt the tiny bit of blood taken would weaken him against Mayweather.

If  Shane Mosley is willing to take it and if Floyd Mayweather Jr. is willing to take it and requests the same blood tests in all his future fights then Pacquiao should take it and help show that boxing is cleaning up it’s act and other sports will follow Mayweather’s example of making the sport of boxing clean and drug free.

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  1. Rare Earthquake Hits Haiti | Earth quake information | Quake Focus says:
    January 22, 2010 at 6:38 am

    [...] If Shane Mosley takes the “Blood Tests” Pacquiao should do the … [...]

    Reply
  2. gordi says:
    January 22, 2010 at 6:50 am

    Based on Floyd’s history and habits, this fight will not happen.

    Reply
  3. AResterio says:
    January 22, 2010 at 6:59 am

    The writer is a hypocrite just like Coward Floyd..Floyd and his Flomos pretend to lead the crusade to “clean up the sport of boxing” of drug abuse while Floyd admittedly injects himself with Xylocaine before every fight?? What Hypocrites!Disgusting to the max! You don’t believe Pac is afraid of needles?? He is!! In contrast, FLOYD LOVES NEEDLES!! Needles are soooooo gooood!! It’s so good Floyd doesn’t feel a thing!

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  4. ethan says:
    January 22, 2010 at 7:18 am

    Mosley’s case is different, here we have an ADMITTED STEROID USER, so it justly fit for him. In the case of Manny, there is NONE, I repeat not even one single evidence to suggest that he is on illegal substance, not even Xylocaine which is considered illegal in other states. Just to make story staight, Manny said he is MORE THAN WILLING TO SUBMIT HIMSELF TO ANY FORM OF BLOOD TESTING, RANDOM OR NOT as long as it is coming from the COMMISSION or any GOVERNING BODY. That is why the Commission is there for, to look after the fairness of the sport. In my opinion, Let the Mayweathers bring their own experts and make their case before the Commission and convince the them why Random Blood Testing must be included in the Procedure. Manny has no problem with that? He just felt insulted being asked to submit to all of KFC’s demand when Manny is the Number one P4P king and KFC is just trailing him. It doesn’t make sense. Besides, isn’t that the same stand of Mosley before when he was about to fight Zab Judah back then? When Shaeffer said that Mosley will submit nothing else but only to what the Nevada Athletic Commision ask him to do, and despite the fact that Shane admitted being a user, he must not be treated as one? C’mmon GBP stop fooling us around, we are not DUMB like your Boss.

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  5. ethan says:
    January 22, 2010 at 7:33 am

    To all KFC followers including the writer:

    Who has the history of being a cheater(Scales)?
    Who has the history of using illegal substance?
    Who has the history of criminality?
    Who’s Family has the history of Drug Trafficking?

    If your answer is Floyd then you have no reason to doubt Manny.

    Note: Show me just one proof about your allegation against Manny including the email, and I’ll be a KFC fans forever.

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  6. ethan says:
    January 22, 2010 at 7:36 am

    LIARS GO TO HELL..

    Reply
  7. Not black i'm brown says:
    January 22, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Jerome on January 21st, 2010 8:19 pm Pacquiao wont take those tests Lou he will avoid that shit like he has avoided very other [slick black] fighter ….Stop useing the [WHITE MAN WORD BLACK] u not black u brown look up the word black n see how it look then look @ urself…it [slick brown fighter]….N the bum pac-who man take the test n just fight,,,let me fight who ever 4 a bag of chip n a pop i’m doing good…but 4 $40 plus million dollars i’m on my way..who i’m fighting my mom she better b and shape because i’m coming 2 fight mom….

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  8. Floyd-d says:
    January 22, 2010 at 8:31 am

    Mayweather’s demand should be conducted because he is above Nevada Boxing Comm. His family member are experts in determining who’s taking drugs, based on their experience and education. Plus, GoldenBoy is bigger than Top Rank and has bigger ego like Floyd. Bob Arum should bend over and take it laike a man because he’s only been in business for many many years, even when Oscar and Schaefer were in 1st grade picking their noses. Although Bob graduated from Harvard, it doesn’t mean he is smarter than Floyd’s dad.

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  9. Mar says:
    January 22, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Here is another dumb writer. Manny doesn’t need to prove that he’s clean because he’s clean after all. Mosley needs to prove the whole world that he is NOW clean because he was ONCE a dirty fighter.

    If this writer is a critical thinker and not narrow-minded as he seems to be, he would realize that granting Manny is “dirty” and wants to hide it, then all the more he’s gonna accept the blood test because it will raise doubts if he doesn’t accept to take it. Didn’t you ever realize that Lou Block? Being a writer entails broad-mindedness and good critical and investigative skills. You need to study more!

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  10. Boxxerr says:
    January 22, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Look
    How not to be Professional.
    How to make your sport Stupid.
    Assuming!!!!!!
    Assuming!!!!!! he’s on steriods
    Assuming!!!!!!

    Let’s get blood test because I assume.
    NSAC are stupid!!!!!They dont know about steriods
    Let’s get blood test because I assume.

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  11. Dey says:
    January 22, 2010 at 9:23 am

    “Pacquiao got every demand he requested” is a FALSE statement.

    Can anyone out there (Lou Block) state any other demands that went Pacquio’s favor? I’m Very curious….

    Purse – Even/mutual
    Weight – Even/mutual
    Glove – Pacquiao
    Venue – Mayweather
    Ring Size – Even/mutual
    Date of Fight – Even if not in Mayweather’s favor.

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  12. Dey says:
    January 22, 2010 at 9:38 am

    OH forgot one more.

    Campaign name went to Mayweather (Mayweather vs. Pacquiao).

    Can anyone out there (Lou Block) state any other demands that went Pacquio’s favor? I’m Very curious….

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  13. Johnny says:
    January 22, 2010 at 9:39 am

    What makes you think that this Mosley-Mayweather fight will ever happen? And why would Pacquiao take the blood test ifever Mosley does it for Mayweather? You don’t get it. Paquiao doesn’t answer to any of these people’s demand (including yours and paquiao haters).
    The only way Pacquiao will do any of these testings, is if the Nevada Commission requires him to do so. And Smoovone.. stop getting your input from what you read in the news. Tell us something we don’t know. Use your head and think why the Pacman did what he did. Stay with the facts, and not what you read and others tell you as the truth.
    You obviously know little about professional boxing.

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  14. AstRo says:
    January 22, 2010 at 10:00 am

    This article is wrong. Pacquiao DID agree to Olympic style blood testing. Both parties agreed to that. The points of disagreement are:

    1. The cutoff date. Pacquiao wants it 24 days before the fight while Mayweather wants it 14.

    2. Who will administer it. Pacquiao wants a recognized boxing governing body to administer it to ensure safety while Mayweather wants to dictate who will do it.

    Anyone who follows Pacquiao’s training schedules knows that 14 days before the fight he goes into the most intense part of his training, and then tapers down 7 days before the fight. They would not want to risk affecting the most important part of his training.

    To compensate for his request to move the cutoff date to 24 days, he agreed to be tested on the day of the fight itself, RIGHT AFTER the fight. Surely any steroids he used that could have affected his performance during the fight would have been detected there.

    But Mayweather chose to ignore logic.

    Pacquiao offered this legitimate compromise and Mayweather rejected it.

    Hence his motive is clear: to harass his opponent to make it appear that his charges have basis, hence discrediting Pacquiao and give Mayweather reason not to fight.

    It was Mayweather who walked out of this fight by not agreeing to the compromise. He intentionally didn’t budge knowing fully well that Pacquiao would not accept his demands, making it appear that is was Pacman who walked out.

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  15. Gago says:
    January 22, 2010 at 10:51 am

    To all gayweather fans this include the writer.

    “WAKE UP”

    Gayweather is a ducker.

    This Gayweather vs Mosley fight WILL NOT HAPPEN.

    GET IT? IT WILL NOT HAPPEN– MAYWEATHER WILL FIND A VERY GOOD EXCUSE TO NOT TO FIGHT MOSLEY.

    MOSLEY IS A THREAT TO GAYWEATHER’S O LOSSES

    He will fight another lightwelter that will go up to welter weight.

    MARK MY WORD

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  16. David says:
    January 22, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Why would anybody pay to see that bitch pacroid, by refusing to take a perfectly legitimate blood test he has in effect said he is guilty,hey bitchroid you suck!

    Reply
  17. pongiipongii says:
    January 22, 2010 at 11:27 am

    This is getting too complicated. Just adhere NSAC pro-boxing rules and everything will be a smooth sailing to boxing. All these BS drug testing experts are just killing the boxing sport. These fools are acquiring influence from phoney Xylocaine user Floyd, who is bringing up this kind of excuse for not willing to fight Pac with his random Olympic-style blood testing. No filipino athletes are taking steroids. Period!!!!!!

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  18. gwapito says:
    January 22, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    fak u guys r dumb as fuk…. firs of all manny not making en excuses…

    manny says i will give blood str8 after the fight… “mayweather shut ur pretty ugly mouth n fight me n the ring where i can punch back”

    manny belivs it will weaken him n i think thats understandable. if u guys doont understand that then u guys dont have much respect…

    we wall know mayweather is scared of manny..even mayweathers dad didnt want his son to fight him after watching manny vs cotto….

    u guys are alot of dumb guys who dont have respect for boxers.

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  19. So0thsayer says:
    January 22, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    If you think Pacquiao is on steroid then come to the rural street areas of the Philippines; I doubt you’d survive more than 1 minute of getting knock the fu(k out.

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  20. COWARD GAYWEATHER says:
    January 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Filipino Athletes are not cheaters!

    This writer is either a black or a Pacman hater. You need to study how to write articles based on facts and truthfulness. You (writer) might as well be included in Pacman’s sue for character defamation. Make your article straight and right.

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  21. COWARD GAYWEATHER says:
    January 22, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    This writer is absurd! Where did you get that source that Pacman avoided a showdown with KFC?

    On Jan 20th at Dallas Cowboy $1.2 billion state-of-the-art stadium, Pacman said during his live interview that Mayweather is scared to lose hence making “ALIBIS”, I repeat, “ALIBIS”. Go and search it on youtube.com for your further information.

    Either you have a black pussy or white pussy, you’re obviously a F***ng racist! You can not just shallow the FACT that the NO.1 fighter, best fighter, Pound-for-Pound KING is from Asia. So make your articles right before posting it. Get it?

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  22. Conscience says:
    January 22, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Hypocrites trying to sound clean and righteous. You can’t fool us with your smoke screen. Floyd – if you did not have such a colorful history of dishonesty and slight of hand, I would take your request at “face value”. However, your recent fight with Marquez as an example, you basically cheated a guy a few pounds (even after you requested him to move two weight classes above to fight you). Wow!

    Camp Mayweather – continues with its run-ins with the law that they need their own reality series. And these guys, want us to believe that they have connected with their inner voices???

    Tygart – also talks i.e. we are looking for the truth and fight for the clean athletes, but using a recent case against cyclist Landis as an example. Tygart refused to provide documentation requested by Landis’ defense team. To paraphrase his response, he said, “The rules don’t require me to give you any more than this, so I’m not going to.” The lab documentation package that we’ve all come to know and love, in Tygart’s mind, was all that Team Landis needed to defend Floyd Landis against the charges. Yes, Tygart giving that “following the rules” thing B/S . . but, throws mud against Nevada boxing organization. Another hypocrite. Further, As part of his request, Tygart told the arbitration panel that any positive results would be used against Landis. So Tygart was on a fishing expedition, searching for more evidence to use against Landis, even though Landis could not go on the same expedition to try and find evidence to exonerate himself. That’s not searching for truth, that’s trying to bolster a weak case. We rest our case against these people who claim to be “so called the paragon of virtues”. Yup, virtues my ass.

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  23. LowBot says:
    January 22, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    To Reality,

    As a claimed PEDs expert, you know that there is no DEFINITE test for EPO/HGH even with blood and urine test, the result is always PROBABLE. USADA has not caught any EPO/HGH in any olympians or amature athletes yet. So why would you throw away 40 million dollars by pegging your argument on something the scientists are still working on. Tygart even mentioned in his interview that the 24 and 14 days has no difference. If Floyd really knows what he’s talking about why demand for 14 days? He can’t even name the PEDS he accused Pacquiao with if he’s really that sure. The bottom line here is he’s playing hardball. He’s ego couldn’t accept the fact that once-a-very-poor Pacquiao is the Champion, humble, never trash talk and pound for pound king. How could you not love the guy that helps revive the sport we love, unless if you just discriminating the simple man or you’re a racist? Talking about NSAC inability to catch everybody on steroids, why no boxers protested or lobbied to NSAC for their protection. It only came during Pacquiao’s time. According to all of you Pachaters, he’s not the best boxer but why suddenly crucify him for winning 7 belts? It’s not the first time he’s knocking out opponents. It’s not that he suddenly had world breaking homeruns coming from an average performance before. Clear up your heart and mind and try to live in the reality. Pacquiao is just doing his job to fight for an honest living because he’s very poor and played by the existing rule. Why theorically include another (USADA) ruling body and presume him guilty by their standards? It’s just sOOOO unfair.

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  24. Reality says:
    January 23, 2010 at 6:55 am

    LowBot on January 22nd, 2010 9:17 pm
    “To Reality,
    As a claimed PEDs expert, you know that there is no DEFINITE test for EPO/HGH even with blood and urine test, the result is always PROBABLE.”
    Agreed, and I never said otherwise. But the fact that it hasn’t caught anyone does not for a minute mean that it doesn’t work… science doesn’t work that way. Just because one result didn’t come out does not dismiss it as failed. There are many potential conclusions that one could draw from this… perhaps all the people undergoing the test were actually clean? Perhaps knowing that they would be tested at random is good enough a deterrent to scare athletes out of using PEDs? Perhaps the tests really don’t work?
    But does that mean we should just give up and fall back to testing that has been proven useless by the likes of Shane Mosley?

    “Tygart even mentioned in his interview that the 24 and 14 days has no difference. If Floyd really knows what he’s talking about why demand for 14 days?”
    Tygart believes that no window should be offered and I agree with him. As to Floyd making the 14 day offer, I can only guess his assumption was that 12 days of PED use would not benefit Pacquiao enough for it to be a huge problem.
    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not in any way saying with my arguments that Floyd doesn’t have ulterior motives… he may have and quite frankly that’s not my argument… my argument as that what he’s raised in this style of testing (for whatever his reasons are) can only be good for boxing.

    “How could you not love the guy that helps revive the sport we love, unless if you just discriminating the simple man or you’re a racist? Talking about NSAC inability to catch everybody on steroids, why no boxers protested or lobbied to NSAC for their protection. It only came during Pacquiao’s time.”
    I was a Pacquiao fan right up until he refused the test, because in my opinion that is suspicious. There is nothing discriminating or racist about it and I really wish people would stop citing that as a reason.
    This is NOT the first time this issue has been raised. John Ruiz made a lot of noise about drug testing several years ago after he was forced to endure a fight with James Toney who was later discovered to have been using PEDs… his calls fell on deaf ears because unfortunately John “Huggy Bear” Ruiz is not a big enough name in boxing for anyone to listen.

    “According to all of you Pachaters, he’s not the best boxer but why suddenly crucify him for winning 7 belts?”
    Like I said (and I don’t speak for all people), I had no problems with any of Pacquiao’s victories and I had never previously suspected him of being on PEDs (at least not any more than I would have suspected some other boxers). This is not (from my personal view) anything about ‘Pac-hating’.

    When I noted that the Olympic style testing was in the initial fight contract (it was NOT brought up at the last minute like many people are suggesting), I never expected it would become a stumbling block in the fight. Yet when Pacquiao refused, alarm bells suddenly went off in my head.

    In my eyes, any fighter who is accused and is clean would have no problem taking the tests. Quite frankly, I just simply don’t believe that he is weakened as he states. Literally hundreds of athletes undergo this procedure (including Olympic boxers) with no ill effects.
    He stated that in the Morales fight he was weakened, but I don’t buy it. He looked strong to me… he hurt Morales (no easy task) many times in the early going of that fight. The reason he lost was because Morales simply outboxed him… in the rematch Manny didn’t win due to being stronger than the first fight, he won due to improved jab, foot movement and evasiveness. To me, the ‘weakness’ excuse was exactly that… an excuse for a bad performance. Fighters make excuses all the time… many made excuses for Pacquiao’s recent victims too. It doesn’t make them true.

    But the fact remains, he refused to be tested. Then I really started to think about how he’s maintained his extreme fitness up through the weight divisions. Power can be maintained, but I’ve never seen a fighter keep that kind of fitness as they move up.
    Sure his weight has remained constant for a long time, but that may mean he’s been using PEDs for that entire time, so the ‘ring weight’ argument being thrown around doesn’t prove a thing for or against his case.

    Either way, none of this proves or disproves anything. But taking a test would dispel all rumours and also pave the way for this kind of testing to become standard. If Manny cared about the sport at all and is a clean athelte, I believe he should help this testing become the standard practice.

    “Why theorically include another (USADA) ruling body and presume him guilty by their standards?”
    It’s not about being presumed guilty.
    This is the equivalent of a policeman using a speed radar. He’s not accusing cars of being guilty (of speeding), he is checking to make sure they’re playing by the rules. Now if somebody came up with a ‘stealth car’ to avoid their speed being caught on radar, that would suddenly become suspicious, right?
    PED testing is the same to me. Thorough PED testing is a means of making sure everyone is clean (not just Pacquiao but potentially every fighter if Mayweather & Pacquiao can set the standard). But when a fighter refuses this, I can’t help but wonder if he’s hiding something.

    People need to stop looking at Pacquiao as a victim in all of this.
    The fact is, to clean up the sport, somebody has to make the first move. Who better than the two biggest names in boxing… Mayweather and Pacquiao? If these two can set an example, then other fighters may follow suit and then the NSAC, CSAC (etc) may implement changes.
    Change has to start somewhere, and when something isn’t working, someone has to make a strong stance to create that change. Pacquiao and Mayweather are in the best position to see these changes begin.

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  25. LowBot says:
    January 23, 2010 at 8:46 am

    To Reality,

    I see that you’re a level-headed and educated person but it’s funny that you’re cerebral approach to this PED thing is not what Mayweather’s basis of demand. I would readily agree with you if you’re Mayweather’s adviser on PEDs but obviously you’re not because an educated person couldn’t afford to defend Mayweather on his stand unless if you’re a African-American or simply just hate a poor Filipino man. Honestly speaking, we can go on and on trying to defend somebody that doesn’t even know us because we can’t even share with Pacquiao or Gayweather our thoughts. Their egos are more than our intellect, my friend. The bottom line is Gayweather doesn’t know what he’s talking about because the GBP and his advisers couldn’t defend their 14 days stand like the way you do. So there’s no point of defending the Olympic random blood tests because they themselves abandon their stand on it. They finally agree to schedule the blood tests it only got derailed on days. Again, they don’t know with conviction about the importance of the Olympic blood tests because they’re ready to negotiate. The story behind is, according to many boxing analysts, they’re using the “26-14 days” as haggling strategy to back up their egos (Read Merchant’s, Atlas’ and Stewart’s comments). Poor Pacquiao because he is on the losing side of the haggling strategy because Gayweather played the “witch hunt” mentality of the American mass audience plus the rampant steroids use of American athletes (Don’t get me wrong it can happen to any country or group of people if you don’t look at this issue in a reasonable and logical way). You’re a witch until proven innocent on the pile of burning stake. Gayweather Sr. has already brainwashed and corrupted people minds about this steroid thing and only culminated to this 14-day demand. He backed out the last and yet he didn’t reason out with conviction. There’s something fishy going on there. Furthermore, you can’t demand an Olympic-style blood tests because you’re just a boxer so why can’t he RESPECT Pacquiao’s reasoning for being weakened when blood is taking out from him, which was true before Morales 1 fight. It was televised in local Filipino channel news how the camp worried about his reaction to the tests. It’s not only AFTER the fight that he complained about it. Anyway, they’re just negotiating and no ruling body is forcing one to give RANDOM blood tests so Pacquiao chose to refuse like many other athletes do (clean or not clean). The problem with Gayweather is the DISRESPECTFUL, BULLYING, DEMANDING, SUPER EGO-BACKED UP, DISCRIMINATING, JEALOUSY-LADEN MANNER OF DEMANDING THE OLYMPIC-STYLE BLOOD TESTS. If they employed a diplomatic and civilized way, Pacquiao could’ve agreed. He used the Mafia, ghetto-style, drug syndicate, and gang-like, jungle-warrior tactic to push his agenda. Have you not experienced that in you’re life, in workplace, in petty arguments, that you become illogical and emotional if you’re pride got pricked or dignity stepped on by somebody with a low life? Sometimes people get killed for simply being disrespectful. It’s even the law of the street. Gayweather should know that by heart because he was in a lot of trouble with ordinary people disrespecting him. Again, the reality- Mr. Reality- Mayweather doesn’t think the way you think unless if you can prove to me you’ve direct communication with Gay—. He’s a coward and got intimidated so he chickened out with his “14-day eggs”. That’s the ONLY logic I know.

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  26. Reality says:
    January 23, 2010 at 9:45 am

    @LowBot on January 23rd, 2010 8:46 am
    “Again, the reality- Mr. Reality- Mayweather doesn’t think the way you think unless if you can prove to me you’ve direct communication with Gay—.”
    I can understand what you’re saying, but none of it is really arguing the point I’m trying to make.
    You have to see that I’m not making my argument on the behalf of Mayweather. I only offered assumptions as to what they might have been thinking in the 14 day situation.
    Quite frankly, I don’t know whether Mayweather is trying to make excuses to dodge the fight (he may well be), heck I’m not even confident Mayweather vs Mosley will ever happen (I’ll believe that fight happens when they enter the ring) and overall, I really don’t care what his reasoning is.
    But I can see your argument leans more towards pitching blame for why the fight didn’t happen. My argument on the other hand is about why a stronger testing scheme should be implemented, why this (potential) fight is a great means to implement it and why I’m suspicious of any fighter (Pacquiao or otherwise) who would refuse said tests.
    None of what I’m saying is from a “Mayweather Fanboy” perspective… I’m writing from a “pro-drug testing” perspective.

    The basis of what I’ve been saying is that I can’t see how Mayweather’s testing proposal is anything but positive for boxing.
    I fail to see how Pacquiao as a victim as such… he only became a suspect because he refused the (adequate) testing measures. If the tables were turned and it was Pacquiao asking for tests, and Mayweather refusing, I would just as readily be suspicious of Mayweather.
    I see this as an opportunity for Pacquiao to help implement new measures in boxing that will ensure greater safety for all fighters.

    And for the record, I have actually assumed boxing was rife with PEDs for a long time now (maybe not to the same degree as MMA where one look at some of the fighters tells you all you need to know, but rife nonetheless).
    In my eyes, Mosley was hitting the juice the whole time he was at 154lbs. Margarito, I’d be surprised if he wasn’t on some kind of EPO-like substance. Even RJJ was known to be a user, not to mention Toney, Vargas, and of course the whistle blower Morrison etc.

    I do see your point about the witch hunt… but it’s not an unfounded witch hunt given the number of athletes in general who have been caught out. Perhaps it’s unfair in some regards that it has centred on Pacquiao, but like I’ve said from the start, he can always take the test, prove his innocence, silence the doubters and help to implement the strategy across the board.
    Given the amount of steroids used in sport, how can we afford to take the ‘benefit of the doubt’ option that so many people are providing Pacquiao?
    Should Ben Johnson have been allowed to refuse tests given that he’d not tested positive prior to his 100m win in the Seoul Olympics?
    And if we’re going to start giving ‘benefit of the doubt’, then why test at all? Scheduled tests are already shown to be inadequate, so why not waive them altogether?

    And I don’t agree that fighters shouldn’t be allowed to demand this type of thing. Should trainers also be barred from checking handwraps of opponents (i.e. should that be left up to the governing body’s officials, which of course has proven useless in the past?).
    If something is broken, then who better than the fighters (whose very safety is at risk) to demand the change?
    Without pressure, the commissions will continue to do as little as possible so long as they’re getting paid.

    For the record, Kizer himself stated:
    “Mr. Mayweather has every right to demand it. But that’s a private negotiation and not something we’re involved in.”
    http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1553/pacquiaomayweather_debacle_beginning_of_change_in_boxings_drug_culture/

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  27. nixz says:
    January 23, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    those people that thinks that pac is using illegal drugs you guys are full of BS.All the test that they did to pac came out negative that is before and right AFTER the fight,So why you guys are accusing pac.find the evidence first befor accusing him.or probally you guys are kissing GAYweathers balls.Accept the facts that it is hard to make a deal with gayweather since before.He is the one with a lot of excuses.To end this comment those GAYweather fans that accusing PAC just shut the F*** up>

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  28. leroy brown says:
    January 25, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    this is for all the ignorant brainwashed floyd fans outthere, floyd is a slick on ducking the best fighter and thats the truth.

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  29. j-cole says:
    January 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    The whole thing about the olympic style drug testing situation is that Pacquio agrees to it but only 24 days before the fight. So the arguement that the Commision doesn’t require it goes out the window; the real arguement is why 24 days over 14 days? I haven’t heard anyone give me a good answer to that question yet.

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  30. gdup says:
    January 26, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Somebody brought a good point here that I never really thought about; and that’s the point that boxers have to protect boxers you can’t count on the commision to do that. Shane Mosley took illegal drugs for years, and the so called great commision never caught him, and it took a trainer to catch Antonio Margarito’s illegal hand wraps.
    If I ask someone to take an extra test before a fight and they weren’t willing to take it I would have to turn my back on that person period.

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  31. tye says:
    January 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    You know the sport should already have the most strict testing methods around. There shouldn’t be any other test for a boxer to request, but boxing has been dragging its feet for a long time now. I

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  32. tye says:
    January 26, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    If you thought someone was dragging your name in the mud and accusing you of using PED’S the best way to deal with that is take the test 14 days up to the fight. Fight, show the world you still have the same speed and power, and that’s it. Anything else is just making something simple complicated.

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  33. Tiki Barber Shop says:
    January 26, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Stop the war on the Taliban and just join the Taliban if that’s the type of Big Brother world you want to live in. Athletes aren’t important enough to drug test. Manny isn’t trying to board a plane. He doesn’t OWE us anything.

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  34. Lowbot says:
    January 27, 2010 at 1:29 am

    Reality, I like you’re style. I’m with you when it comes to cleaning up the sport we love. Just don’t use Pacquiao for your enthusiasm. I believe he’s innocent and he doesn’t need to prove it. He’s not American so why can’t they just respect his right to refuse any tests beyond what he’s already complying with. That’s just unfair. I’ll work with you in campaigning for the NSAC to change their testing procedures. I hope the USADA with work with them in helping change the rule. Poor Pacquiao, he’s the sacrificial offering nowadays. If Nevada will agree with Random Olympic tests then I guess he’ll gladly get tested. He loves boxing sport too much and he respect it by giving it a good name once again. Not Gayweather!!!

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  35. Buck says:
    January 27, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    ALL fighters should take random blood and urine testing. We are talking about fists hitting another human beings’ head! Make the sport clean, drug free and legal accross the board!!!

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  36. buy says:
    January 27, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    to the one that said americans are cheater, that hurts im american but im asian heritage and we are not cheaters. if you hate america then dont watch other shows that come from america. people like you make the world a hateful place. God bless america and china.

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  37. Pacquiao vs Clottey says:
    January 28, 2010 at 9:28 am

    People can think anything about the reason behind Pacquiao not taking the blood test. But I believe he has the right to object on things he know is not required by the boxing commission.

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  38. Just a Boxing Fan says:
    January 30, 2010 at 3:18 am

    Manny Pacquiao did not let go of a $40 million plus deal, he DEPRIVED Kentucky Floyd Chicken of earning $40 million plus. No wonder all you read from Gayweather and fans are about anger and hatred! Gayweather fans STOP CRYING!!!!! Move on!

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