“Catchweight King” Manny Pacquiao wants Margarito to drain to 150lbs for title fight
By Lou “Cinder” Block
A lot of boxing fans are not going to be happy with this – Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao and his team are seeking an 8th world title at the 154 pound weight class but they want to fight for the WBC junior middleweight title at a catch-weight of 150 pounds!
Boxing fans don’t have a problem with the fight being at a catch-weight, they just have a problem with it being for a world title.
Manny Pacquiao was highly criticized for having a catch-weight fight of 145 pounds for the WBO 147 pound welterweight title against Miguel Cotto and now he has no shame in asking for another ridiculous catch-weight title fight.
It seems the Pacman doesn’t care about the fans or his legacy either, because if he wanted to be looked at as the most legit pound 4 pound king in the sport, then, he has to make the weight limit 154 pounds not 150 for the WBC belt.
Pacquiao can come in at 150 if he wants but he should allow Margarito to come in at the junior middleweight limit so the fight can be fair. If Pacquiao is worried about being to small, then don’t fight at 154 pounds stay at welterweight.
His title won’t mean jack shit if he doesn’t face Margarito at 154 pounds. This fight is already a big joke and fans are so pissed off at this fight happening. Bob Arum and Freddie Roach should be ashamed of themselves for trying to make this fight.
Manny Pacquiao should just wait till Floyd Mayweather Jr. is ready to negotiate after the first week of August or his uncle Roger Mayweather’s assault trial is finished because the biggest fight in boxing is Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao and that fight is the only fight that should be made even if it’s for next year.
If Bob Arum thinks people will actually pay to see Manny Pacquiao fight a cheater who got suspended for loading his gloves and to have the fight at a catch-weight for a title, then, he is not living in reality. I don’t think anyone would pay to see this, especially, after that horrible Top Rank PPV between Manny Pacquiao and Joshua Clottey.
This fight won’t do over 300,000 PPV buys even if it was broadcast by HBO. Arum is greedy and bad for boxing he will make more money putting Manny Pacquiao against Antonio Margarito or anyone of his in-house fighters than he would with Pacquiao fighting any other fighter and that’s the only reason why he wants this fight.
Arum takes a big chunk of his fighters money so no wonder he is happy. Pacquiao needs to fight a more credible opponent like Timothy Bradley, Andre Berto, Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez at 160 pounds for the middleweight title in order for him to be taken seriously as a bad ass fighter.
Manny Pacquiao has a better moniker now – “CATCHWEIGHT KING.”
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dude you don’t understatnd about megafigt all about, the biggest fight in history cannot be set up in less than 2 month. It doesn’t really matter who pacman fight, cuz everyone still criticized him, people doesn’t understand about their feeling with pacman.. theuy always have something to say, no matter who pacman fight. if floyd fight pacman everybody say floyd easy win, will ko pacman. mayweather #1 coward and pussy. he just hand pick with the smaller opponent just toi make more money.
@ Lou “Kinder” Block
What the does speaking English got to do with boxing?
English is a language (just a trade language), fighting is universal. I can’t believe that you didn’t figure that out in your 15 years of boxing experience (probably watch it on TV).
I can’t believe retards like you even claim experience in boxing.
What’s next, Floyd flosses his tooth and Manny doesn’t? that might give better image to boxing.
You are a total nut job, writing imbecilic comments.
Peace
@jackass
I don’t understand…
” he just hand pick with the smaller opponent just toi make more money.”
So he picked te smaller man in his last fight???
No -_- Mayweather just picked an old washed out man that shakes a lot because of arthritis for his last fight. (watch the video and see old man with shaky hands) We are really talking about the people he fought before the old wash out. Marquez(old, jumped up 2 weight classes, small), Hatton(Jumped up 1 weight class, European, and small), De la Hoya I’ll give him that one. Zab Judah(problems with welterweight division, lost a couple times before fighting mayweather, best at light welterweight). Sharmba Mitchell(originally a light welterweight with no power) See the record speaks. Although split decision with De La Hoya, yeah I’ll give him that.
On the contrary, Manny is an exciting fighter while Floyd is boring. Manny is a respectable and humble person. Floyd is trash, ghetto all the way. While Manny serves other people while in Congress, Floyd is in hiphop bars.
Lou Black-azz you are a hater… There’s only one catchweight fight when Manny fought Cotto. ODLH asked Manny to fight him in the welterweight not a catchweight. I didn’t read your article but I was sure it’s prejudice towards Manny when you are calling him a catchweight king. Open wide your eyes, Manny’s built is too small in the junior middleweight. I think we are just lucky to have a brave fighter like Manny – who can still fight bigger opponents in the junior middleweight division. Where is your idol Floyd Jr? Floyd Jr is ducking tough and bigger opponents like Cotto, Margarito, PWilliams, etc… Oh yeah… I’m not thinking about boxing right now and I wanna take a time off boxing after he learned that Manny was agreeing to all his BS capricious demands… LOL! If Manny is asking 150 lbs for Margarito, anyways, on the fight night after the weigh in Margarito will weigh up more than 154lbs.
You can tell u didn’t read the article becuase if u had…. U would not have popped of at the mouth… It’s not an issue of fighting at a catch weight it’s the fact that it’s for the belt at a certain weight… N if ur pre-fight condition doesn’t matter tell the bitch to agree to random testing…. I repeat random not 14 days of ped pushing…
If WBC does not concerned, why would you or us?
If anyone thinks it’s Manny’s fault, then you are a moron, Floyd nuthugger, Manny hater, and so stupid.
Here are the reasons why:
- OSDT random blood testing is never required in pro-boxing, NSAC, and all other pro-boxing commissions around the world…
- OSDT random blood testing is not good for fighters who fight up to 10 round or 12 round of boxing…
- Boxing sport doctors, experts, NSAC, and majority of professional boxers have agreed that the random blood testings can caused an adverse effects to the boxers physical and mental performances in the fight…
- Hair testing and urine testing are available and the most effective procedures to detect steroids..etc.. it’s non evasive and safe…
- It doesn’t make sense to use PPV buys as leverage to ask a bigger purse over another biggest draw fighter… Floyd fought those biggest draw fighters – ODLH and Mosley like when Manny fought ODLH and Cotto… what would have been the result if Floyd fought with unpopular fighter like Clottey??? If you can get the right point here, you are moron!
- When Manny was agreeing to all those capricious demands of Floyd, Floyd in a flash thinking to take a time off boxing…
- Floyd is using his uncle Roger A-Side Meth author court trial excuse not to fight Manny… Yet, Floyd Sr has been claiming, he’s a great trainer..blah..blah…
- Floyd freaked out to read and sign the contract, finally denied the negotiation was taking in place to fight Manny..LOL!
- too much and too many BS excuses…
The Mayweather’s are so deperate to cover up their embarrassments – called Manny a faggot, blamed Hatton, pointed out Arum for lying, and etc….
Just one word for Floyd Jr and his camp – LIARS AND COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sit down… Thanks for ur personal break down but u said nothing that I couldn’t have googled… Yeah don’t u try to google PEDS u dumb fuck… Steriods r for homemrun hitters n body builders… Every1 will talk of mayweathers 41-0 record n forget about this so called ducking that u claim… N for pacman its the title holder of catch weight belts… Mayweather is Like the superbowl it happens once a year didn’t quick money arum get the memo
Did the Sr said little F will whip Pac whether he is ON something or not? So why bother with the test that are not dictated by the commision?
Floyd Joy Sr. really messed up your head, dude.
Let it go. Floyd himself is not talking about.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Really messed up your head.
catchweight king is still waaaaaaay better than bieng called a coward.
I didn’t read the article because its obvious that it is based upon blind people. From the tittle, clearly the author of this is a Floid fan and his Floid can’t get any better than pacquiao, except running away and fooling his no brainer fans. Envy I smell.
It’s not envy u smell… Wipe the shit off ur top lip… Mayweather doesn’t need pacman to seal fighter of the decade… Pacman needs mayweather to prove u can put down some1 that already doesn’t have a chip on their shoulder
@catchweight
dude, let it go.
it’s giving you nightmares.
Floyd himself is not talking about it anymore.
Floyd Joy Sr. really messed up your head.
let it go.
poor you.
tsk,tsk,tsk.
To all Pacnerds and Pactards here in nowboxing
This is a very biased article….read all my articles here in nowboxing and you would be able to digest the real facts of boxing…Manny cannot even speak english and he will never be deserving a fight with Floyd who can speak english well.
Floyd is the best fighter of the decade…not Manny…
ESPY is the Oscars of Boxing…and like me who has 15 years of experience as boxing analyst, believes that Floyd is the best fighter of the decade and fighter of the year…not manny.
Floyd is the positive image of boxing because he can speak english well unlike Manny…
Manny is an empty fighter…
Is catch-weight illegal? If it is legal and the fighters agree to it, then bring it on.
If you don’t like catch-weights, you don’t have to fight. If you want it outlawed, lobby the boxing commissions. After all, are not catch-weights already in place before Pacquiao even started fighting, so why blame him for a rule he did not create?
It is understandable that a boxer wants a catch-weight when fighting for the first time in a heavier division.
REASONS WHY THIS ARTICLE SUCKS:
1) Lou “Kinder” Block as we all know is another FMW supporter.
2) Manny’s catch weight might be a bit annoying as the title is meant for 154 pounds, however, if Margarito agrees for this challenge, it’s entirely up to him. Manny earned the position to ask for catch weights.
3) Floyd Mayweather fought a lesser weight fighter in JMM and came in overweight to that fight. Who is a better fighter
A- A fighter who challenges someone heavier than him
B- A fighter who challenges someone weighing less than him and comes to the fight heavy.
I’m neither defending pac nor cussing FMW. In fact when they both fight, it can be attractive, but still not the best fight.
The best fights are when Berto and T Bradley against any of these guys. That’s where the heat is. Paul Williams is another option.
David Haye against the Klitchkos might be the last good fight in the heavyweight division.
I don’t give a damn about this welter division until they make proper title fights…
AND BOB ARUM, thanks for spoiling Manny’s legacy.
My credibility as a boxing analyst for 15 years is very solid…
Read all my articles here in nowboxing and you will surely get the fruits of my careful research about the facts as I deliver it to you without bias…
To all Pacnerds and Pactards…I know that you only want to hear what you want to hear…Let’s talk boxing…Manny Pacquiao cannot match the undefeated Floyd because he cannot even speak good english…
Floyd is the positive image of boxing because he can speak english well….Manny doesn’t…
Floyd is the true Fighter of the Decade….Manny can only match Tim Bradley…
@cinderella block
ARE YOU FOR REAL???
Now what in heaven’s name has the English language got to do with boxing???
OMG!!!
Stop playing with Floyd’s balls for a sec and see the world around you, dude.
Open your eyes, you might even be playing with the wrong balls.
LOL!!!
Floyd is the Lord of Loser. The King of Kwak. The Prince of Pompous. The Doctor of Duck. He’ll accept Manny’s fight when Manny is 60 years old with arthritic hands.
What Engkish? urban English or the english of the uneducated? LOL
Who ever wrote this is dumb how can pac drain margarito when theyre both stepping up in weight margarito has been fighting at 140 and 147 lbs its gonna be his 1st time in middle weight do ur research before u embarash urselff
These catchweights are just a ploy to overshadow his PED use. Years from now people will ask how did pacquiao beat all these big guy’s while moving up through all these divisions. And the answer will be, he fought at catchweights because he was small and so that it could be fair to him, while the real reason he’s moved up so many weight classes and beat big guy’s is by the use of PED”s. It’s very smart on his and his teams behalf, because they don’t seem to mind that they are draining fighters or being criticized, coz this is what they really want. He would rather be called “catchweight king” and criticized yet still loved than be called a “cheater” which will make him hated and disgraced and will tarnish his legacy. That’s why you see roach say (with a straight face) that they will fight fighters at catchweights with no shame.
hmm. I thought Antonio fought Cotto and Mosley at 147. Now it is at 150, I don’t see any drain here. Am I missing something?
@hap -
Please don’t tell me you really believe that.
WOW!!!
Floyd Joy Sr. really messed up your head.
Messed up your brain really bad.
LOL!!!
This article is complete tripe.
How did Pacquiao get to be the catchweight “KING”???
Right, he had ONE catchweight fight in his entire career. One f’n fight you whiner.
Margarito is basically still a welterweight fighter that will have no problem at all making 150. So there goes the weight-drain fantasy.
Show me someone railing against catchweights, and I’ll show you a Cotto fan with bruised testicles.
Also I’m sorry to inform you that Jr. Middleweight is 148-154 lbs.
@ cinderella blok -
CATCHWEIGHT KING IS STILL WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY BETTER THAN BEING CALLED A COWARD!!!
LOL!!!!!
most of margarito fights were in 147 lbs……..margarito only fought once at 154 (his last fight) after 2004…….so for pacquiao to gain advantage on 150 lbs, that’s a complete BS because it’s his first time to fight at 150……..so who’s got the advantae pacquiao or margarito??? cmmon please
hahaha..try google his name : “Lou “Cinder” Block” and you will find out that all of his articles are against manny pacquiao.. This guy is a BIG fan of the the monkeys first family..(known as the Mayweathers) Have you google the ancient people? looks same with them right?
For his complete articles..here’s the link:
http://www.nowboxing.com/author/lou-block/
The pencil pushing floydnuthugger also forgot that Floyd Mayweather fought in the MOST RIDICULOUS CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT in boxing history. He made a 36 year old super featherweight go up multiple weight classes (130 to 147 = 17 pounds) and cheated 2 lbs. on the scales for the weigh-in to be around 20 lbs. heavier than his old small fattened opponent.. And these bozos call pac the catchweight king?
this guy is an idiot. why/how will margarito be drained on a 150 catchweight?!?! THEY’RE BOTH MOVING UP AREN’T THEY??? margarito used to fight at 147, therefore this should be easier for him to reach!
What’s wrong if Pacquiao declined a THIRD fight with Marquez?
Even Chavez declined a rematch with Pernell, the same with Trinidad to Oscar, B-hop to Trinidad, Floyd to Oscar, Leonard to Hagler, Ali to Foreman , Calzaghe to B-hop and so on…
Oscar avoided Margarito, Vernon and Winky. Floyd rejected an $8 million fight with Margarito and even against Cotto both of which Pacquiao annihilated.
We know that Marquez gave Pacquiao a hard time but don’t you forget that Pacquiao should have been awarded the title in their first bout because the judge who scored it a draw admitted afterwards that he made a mistake. And Marquez was the one to turn down an immediate rematch with Pacquiao, not the other way around as many people believed. A prime Marquez instead fought and defeated by John.
Even the Greatest had a hard time with Norton in their 2 fights, which many believed the latter had won both times. Does that make Norton the greatest? Of course not.
What’s wrong with Pacquiao’s winning a vacant title?
Even the Mexican legends won at least one vacant title in their careers like Marquez defeated Medina for the vacant IBF Feather title, Barrera defeated Wenton for the vacant WBO Super-bantam title then defeated Freitas for the vacant WBA Super-bantam title, Morales defeated Ayala for WBC’s vacant Feather title, Oscar defeated Paez for the vacant WBO Lightweight title then defeated Coley for the vacant IBA Welter title, Chávez won his first championship against Martínez for the vacant WBC Super-feather title and how many more greats fought for a vacant title?
Even Chavez, Roy and B-hop fought for and won a vacant title as their first.
What’s wrong with Pacquiao’s title wins with a catch-weight?
Of all Pacman’s fights, only 2 have catch-weights. The title fights vs Cotto at 145 for the 147 title and vs Margarito at 150 for the 154 title. Oscar asked Pacman to jump 2 divisions to fight him in their non-title Welter bout the same way Floyd asked Marquez in their non-title Welter bout. There should be no problem with catch-weight if both parties agreed. So what’s the fuss with Pacquiao?
Paul Williams asked a catch-weight of 158 and yet KOd by Martinez for the 160 title. Even the great Leonard did it twice, defeating Lalonde at 168 for the 168 & 175 titles and defeating Hearns at 164 for the 168 title, the middleweight title rematch of Taylor vs Pavlik was fought at 166, Trinidad-Jones at 171 for the 175 non-title bout and Oscar vs B-hop at 158 for the 160 title where many thought Oscar was too small for the middleweight class. If that’s the case for a 5ft9in Oscar, how much more for a midget like Pacquiao against middleweights Martinez or Williams?
Does that affected Leonard’s or Floyd’s or Oscar’s greatness? NO. So does Pacquiao. Many boxers are willing to fight in catch-weights to fight the best, for big money so don’t just blame Pacquiao for it.
Pacquiao won’t fight Martinez or Paul Williams?
Oscar himself, a 5ft9in natural welter, realized after his defeat from B-hop that he’s too small to be a middleweight and even Mosley, a natural welter, won’t dare venture to middleweight because of the same belief. So why Pacquiao, a natural super-lightweight, is a lesser fighter if he opted not to fight any middleweights or if he fight with a catch-weight? Even Martinez himself thought Pacquiao is too small for him.
When Pacquiao fights Berto and if he wins, will you say “Berto didn’t have enough experience to compete with Pacquiao.”? Or when he fights Floyd and if he dominates him, will you say “Floyd has been inactive for too long.”? Or when he fights Marquez and if he beats him, will you say “144 was too heavy for Marquez.”?
All of this has been an afterthought. Since the Barrera fight up to now, many people picked the other guy one way or the other because of their size advantage against Pacquiao and ending up disappointed many times over, including you.
And then the excuses come in. How many fighters have you seen fought bigger current or former champions even with or without a catch-weight and beat them up in such a fashion? And how many fighters have you seen showed mercy to his beaten opponent the way Pacquiao did?
I really want Pacquiao to fight Floyd or Berto to get his 5th Lineal title as Ring’s Welterweight Champion in a box-off between no1 vs no2 or no1 vs no3 fighters of the division. Or a third fight with the WHINER Marquez.
It’s true that Pacman’s era is not yet over not because Pacman, Floyd and Martinez haven’t fought yet but because Pacman’s still fighting. Nonetheless, Pacquiao’s legacy is sealed.
For all the multi-division titlists in history, it’s not unusual. Maybe it’s unusual to you because Pacquiao is Asian.
I don’t care how you rank Pacquiao, I don’t believe he’s the GOAT, either. It’s Sugar Ray Robinson.
All I can say is Pacquiao’s an All-Time Great and a once-in-a-generation phenomenon.
Thank you.